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Spanish Revival Stucco, Pasadena Foothills

Old Stucco Has to Dry Out. We Paint It So It Still Can.

Most of the failed paint we are called to look at in the foothills is not worn out. It is sealed in. Grandprojects2021 repairs and repaints Spanish Revival stucco with coatings the wall can still breathe through.

Painter working on a Spanish Revival stucco wall in Pasadena, CA

Notes on Stucco, Sun and Old Plaster

What we find on Revival houses in the foothills, and what it costs to put right.

Why the Paint on a Pasadena Revival House Peels Off in Sheets, and What to Do About It

Why the Paint on a Pasadena Revival House Peels Off in Sheets, and What to Do About It

There is a specific kind of paint failure we get called out to more than any other, and once you have seen it a few times you can spot it from the sidewalk. Not fading. Not the fine crazing you get on an old finish coat. Sheets. Pieces of coating the size of a hand or a dinner plate, curling at the edges and coming off the wall in one piece, with clean, chalky, undamaged stucco underneath.

Almost every one of those calls is on a house built between about 1920 and 1940, somewhere in the foothills, and almost every one has the same cause. It is worth explaining properly, because the standard response to it makes the problem worse and costs a lot of money doing so.

The Wall You Actually Have

Start with what a Revival era stucco wall is. Three coats of plaster, scratch, brown and finish, laid over wood lath or over expanded metal on the slightly later houses, hung on a wood frame. The mix is lime rich compared to what gets used today. That makes it softer, more forgiving of movement, and, most importantly, vapor open.

Vapor open means water molecules can pass through it. That sounds like a defect and it is the opposite. A wall assembly from that era has no plastic sheeting, no housewrap as we understand it, and often no flashing at details where we would insist on it now. Water gets in. It always has. The design assumption was never that water would be kept out perfectly, it was that whatever got in could get back out, by drying through the face of the plaster to the outside air.

For a hundred years, in a dry inland climate with hard sun and long rainless stretches, that has worked. The wall gets damp, the wall dries.

What Goes Wrong

Then somebody paints it with a coating that does not let vapor through.

Usually this is a heavy build elastomeric, because elastomeric is sold hard and it is sold on a real benefit. It bridges hairline cracks. On stucco with fine map cracking that benefit is genuine and visible immediately, which is exactly why it gets specified on houses that should never receive it. Sometimes it is not elastomeric at all, just several accumulated layers of ordinary exterior paint, each one reducing the wall’s ability to breathe a little further, until the tenth repaint is the one that tips it.

Either way the result is the same. Moisture still gets into the wall, because nothing about the flashing or the parapet or the sprinklers changed. But now it arrives at the back of a film it cannot pass through. It condenses there. It sits at the bond line between coating and plaster, softens the bond, and eventually the film lets go, either from its own weight or from the vapor pressure behind it when the sun hits that wall. Off it comes, in sheets, with dry chalky stucco underneath.

That last detail is the tell. If the plaster under the peeling is sound and dry looking, the failure is at the bond line and the cause was almost certainly moisture from behind. If the plaster is crumbling and soft, you have a different and more serious problem.

Which Wall Is Peeling Tells You a Lot

Walk the house and note where the sheeting is. In the foothills the elevations behave so differently that the location is close to a diagnosis on its own.

North walls peel first in a trapped moisture situation. They get little direct sun, so they dry slowest, and any water that gets behind the coating stays there longest. A north wall under one of the deep overhangs common on the Craftsman influenced houses here can stay damp for days after everything else is bone dry.

South and west walls fail differently. They take punishing UV and dry heat, and the wind that comes down out of the San Gabriels drives grit into the surface. That produces chalking, fading and a coating that has simply worn thin, not sheet peeling. If your south wall is faded and your north wall is peeling, you have two separate problems and they need two separate answers.

Peeling in a vertical band down one section of wall, particularly near a corner or under a roof detail, points at a specific leak rather than a general breathing problem. Follow it upward. Nine times out of ten there is a rusted scupper, a cracked parapet cap, a failed roof to wall flashing, or a downspout discharging straight onto the ground at the base of the wall.

Peeling in a horizontal band about knee height, all the way around, is irrigation. Sprinkler heads throwing a fine mist onto the wall every single morning will do this, and homeowners almost never suspect it because they are asleep when it happens.

The Expensive Mistake

The instinct, faced with a wall shedding paint, is to buy a tougher paint. Something thicker. Something that says waterproof on the label.

That is exactly backwards, and it is the single most expensive mistake we see on these houses. A tougher, less permeable coating traps more moisture, not less. The new film comes off the same way the old one did, usually faster because it went onto a surface that was already compromised, and now you have paid twice and the wall has been stripped and recoated for nothing.

The correct sequence is unglamorous and it is the only one that works. Find the water. Fix the water. Let the wall dry. Then coat it with a system that lets it keep drying.

Fixing the Water First

This is often not painting work at all, and we will tell you that plainly rather than quote around it.

Roof and parapet details are the big one on Revival houses, because the flat topped parapets and the decorative caps that give these homes their look are also the details most likely to be taking water into the wall. A cracked cap or an old mortar joint at the top of a parapet funnels water straight down inside the assembly.

Scuppers and downspouts are next. Cast iron or galvanized scuppers of that vintage rust through at the base, and a downspout that ends at grade against the wall soaks the bottom of it every time it rains.

Window heads and sills come third. Original wood windows in punched stucco openings frequently have no head flashing, and once the sealant at the head has hardened and split there is a direct path in.

Then irrigation, which is the cheapest thing on this list to fix and is regularly the whole answer.

Letting It Dry

If a wall has been sealed and wet for years, it does not dry in a weekend. Once the failed coating is off and the source is fixed, that plaster needs weeks of exposure before anything should go back over it. How long depends on how much water is in it, which we measure rather than guess.

This is the part of the job people find hardest to accept, because the house looks unfinished and half stripped while it happens. We understand that, and we still will not coat a wet wall. Every day of drying you skip is bought back with a repaint in two or three years.

Coating It So It Stays On

Once the wall is dry, the specification is about permeability first and appearance second.

On most sound older stucco, a quality breathable exterior acrylic over an alkali resistant primer is the right answer. Good color retention under this sun, reasonable perm rating, easy to maintain and recoat in a decade.

On a lime rich wall with a real moisture history, mineral silicate coatings are worth the extra cost. Rather than forming a film that sits on the surface, they bond chemically into the mineral substrate, they are extremely vapor open, and they hold color hard under UV. On a house that has already been through one sheet peeling failure, this is usually where we land.

Elastomeric still has a place. On dry, sound, modern cement stucco with fine map cracking, applied at the film build the manufacturer actually specifies rather than the two thin coats it usually gets, it is a strong system and it does what it claims. It just belongs on a different house from yours.

Cracks get dealt with before any of this. Hairline map cracking can be bridged. A crack you can get a fingernail into gets routed out to a clean V, dampened so the old plaster does not pull the water out of the repair, packed with a compatible patching mortar, and floated to match the surrounding texture. We sample the texture match on a hidden elevation and have you approve it dry, because wet texture always flatters the match.

One More Thing About Color

While the house is stripped, people naturally start thinking about color, and there is a practical note worth having.

Deep, saturated colors fade fastest here, and the reds, terracottas and strong ochres that suit a Revival house are among the worst offenders. Organic pigments in those ranges break down under sustained UV, and on a south or west elevation in the foothills the difference between that wall and the shaded side becomes obvious within a few years.

You do not have to give up the color. Choosing a slightly lighter, slightly less saturated version of it, in a coating with inorganic pigments where possible, buys years before anyone notices a difference between elevations. It is a small compromise at the sample stage that saves an early repaint.

If You Are Looking at a Peeling Wall Right Now

Take a photograph of it, note which direction that wall faces, and look up. Then call us on (626) 806-0562 and describe those two things. Direction and what is above the failure will tell us more over the phone than a square footage will, and it will tell you quickly whether you are looking at a paint job or a water problem wearing a paint job’s clothing.

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Grandprojects2021 repaints stucco houses in Pasadena, and the majority of that work is on Spanish Revival and Mediterranean Revival homes built between the two world wars. They have a common set of problems and a common set of wrong answers, and we spend a lot of our time undoing the wrong answers before we get to paint anything.

The wall on a 1926 house is not the wall on a 1998 house. Older stucco is a lime rich, relatively soft plaster laid over wood lath or wire, and it moves and it passes water vapor. It is meant to. Moisture that gets in behind it, from a leaking scupper, from irrigation spray, from a bad flashing at a parapet, leaves by evaporating out through the face. When somebody wraps that wall in a heavy film that does not let vapor through, the water has nowhere to go, so it sits at the back of the coating and pushes it off in sheets. That is the peeling you see on the shaded north side of half the older houses on this side of town.

So the first thing we do on a foothill repaint is figure out what is already on the wall and whether the wall is dry. We look at the elevations separately, because they do not age together. A south or west wall here takes real UV punishment, made worse by the dry heat and the reflected light off pale hardscape, and it will chalk and fade years ahead of the shaded sides. The Santa Ana winds coming down out of the San Gabriels drive grit into the surface and dry a fresh coat far faster than the label expects. A north wall under a deep Craftsman overhang, meanwhile, may still hold sound paint from a decade ago and need almost nothing. Quoting all four walls at one rate is how people end up paying to redo the good side.

The rest of it is the repair. Hairline map cracking in the field of a wall is usually a surface issue and is bridgeable. A single crack that runs, that has a step in it, or that reappears in the same place after every repaint is structural movement and it needs cutting out and rebuilding, not a heavier coat over the top. We will tell you which one you have, and if it is the second one we will tell you plainly that the paint is the cheap part of that conversation.

  • We test the wall before we price itA wet rub for chalk, a tape pull for adhesion, and a moisture read on the elevations that peel. Three quick checks that decide the whole spec, and none of them can be done from a driveway.
  • Cracks are opened before they are filledA crack wider than a hair gets routed out to a clean V, dampened, packed with a compatible patching mortar and floated to match the existing texture. Caulk smeared into a stucco crack is visible forever and it fails first.
  • Coating chosen for the wall, not the brochureElastomeric bridges hairline cracks and it is genuinely useful on sound, dry, modern stucco. On damp lime plaster it is the thing that causes the peeling. We use mineral and breathable acrylic systems where the wall needs to dry outward.
  • What a Revival Stucco Repaint Runs Here

    Numbers below are for a single story stucco house of about 1,800 square feet of wall area, with the trim included. They move with the amount of repair, the number of stories and how much of the old coating has to come off. We put a firm figure in writing after we have walked the house and pulled tape on the failing elevation.

    Sound Wall, Straight Repaint$5,400 to $7,800Crack Repair and Texture Match$7,600 to $12,400Stripped Back and Recoated$13,500 to $22,000
    • Wash, spot prime and two coats
    • Hairline cracks filled, trim caulked
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    • Cracks routed, packed and floated to match
    • Failed coating removed on the bad elevations
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    • Trapping film taken off, wall allowed to dry
    • Breathable system rebuilt from the substrate up
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    Stucco Repair and Coating Work on Foothill Houses

    Everything below is exterior work on older Pasadena homes. We do not chase volume on new tract stucco, because it is a different wall and a different trade.

    Crack Routing and Stucco Patching

    Cracks opened to a clean edge, cleaned of loose material, dampened and packed with a patching mortar compatible with the original mix. Patches are floated wet to match the surrounding texture rather than left flat and painted over, because a flat patch reads as a scar in raking afternoon light.

    Texture Matching on Revival Finishes

    Santa Barbara, sand float, dash and the heavier Spanish lace textures all take a different hand and a different tool. We sample the match on a hidden elevation and have you look at it before we touch the front of the house.

    Breathable Repaint Systems

    Mineral silicate and high perm acrylic coatings for lime rich walls that have to dry outward. Used with the right alkali resistant primer, and never over a surface that is still carrying moisture from an unfixed leak.

    Elastomeric Where It Actually Belongs

    Heavy build elastomeric on sound, dry, cement stucco with hairline map cracking, applied at the film thickness the system calls for. That is a real fix on the right wall and a slow disaster on the wrong one, so we say which yours is before we quote it.

    Wood Trim, Rafter Tails and Doors

    The exposed rafter tails, barge boards, window sash and heavy entry doors on these houses are the parts that fail first. Failed film scraped back, bare wood primed, joints caulked, then acrylic latex on the flatwork and an alkyd or waterborne alkyd where a hard, level finish on a door earns it.

    Lead Safe Prep on Pre-1978 Homes

    Almost the whole older housing stock here predates the lead paint ban. That means testing first, then wet scraping, containment sheeting, HEPA vacuuming and bagged waste rather than dry sanding a wall into the neighbor's yard.

    Nine Things Foothill Homeowners Ask Us About Stucco

    Why is the paint peeling off in sheets on one wall only?
    Because that wall is wet and the coating will not let it dry. Look above the peeling for the source: a rusted scupper, a cracked parapet cap, a downspout dumping at the base, or sprinklers hitting the wall every morning. Fix the water first. If we repaint over an active leak the new coating fails the same way, on the same wall, usually within two seasons.
    Is elastomeric a good idea on my house?
    It depends entirely on the wall. On sound, dry, cement based stucco with fine map cracking it is excellent, and it will bridge hairlines that ordinary paint reopens. On a soft lime plaster wall that has moisture behind it, it is the single most common cause of the sheet peeling we get called out for. We test before we recommend it, and on a lot of pre-war houses the honest answer is no.
    Can you just paint over the cracks?
    Fine map cracking in the field of a wall, yes, with a bridging system. A crack you can get a fingernail into, no. It will telegraph back through in the first hot to cold cycle, and it will do it along exactly the same line so it looks like the paint failed rather than the wall moved. Those get routed out and packed.
    How do you match the original texture?
    By hand, with a sample, on a wall you do not look at. Santa Barbara, sand float and Spanish lace each need a different float and a different wrist. We do a test patch, let it dry to color, and walk you out to look at it in daylight before we do the visible elevations. Wet texture always looks like a better match than it is.
    My house was built in the 1920s. Does that change the prep?
    Yes. Anything built before 1978 is assumed to have lead in the older paint layers until a test says otherwise, and nearly all of the foothill housing stock qualifies. That means no dry scraping or open sanding. We wet the surface, contain the work area, vacuum with a HEPA unit and bag the debris. It adds time to the schedule and it is not optional.
    Do the Santa Ana winds affect when you can paint?
    They affect the day, not the month. Hot, dry wind pulls the water out of a coating far faster than the can assumes, which skins the surface before the film has leveled or bonded properly. On a strong wind day we move to a shaded elevation, work smaller sections, or stop. We also watch surface temperature rather than air temperature, because a west wall in September can be well past the point where any acrylic should be applied.
    What do you actually stand behind afterwards?
    Our workmanship on the coating and the repairs, in writing, for a defined period we agree before the job starts. What no painter can warrant is a wall that keeps getting wet from something we did not repair, or movement in the structure itself. If we think either applies to your house we will write that exclusion plainly on the estimate rather than let you find it later.
    How long does a repaint like this take?
    A straightforward single story stucco repaint is usually four to six working days. Add two or three days for real crack repair and texture matching, and considerably more if a failed coating has to come off, because the wall then needs time to dry before anything goes back on. We would rather leave the house looking unfinished for a week than seal moisture in to hit a date.
    Will the new color fade unevenly again?
    Some difference between elevations is unavoidable here. The south and west walls take direct sun for most of the day and the north wall under a deep overhang barely sees it. What you can control is the pigment. Deep saturated colors, particularly the reds and the strong yellows people like on Revival houses, fade fastest. Choosing a slightly lighter version of the color you want, in a quality exterior grade, buys years before the difference is obvious.

    Where We Work Along the San Gabriel Foothills

    Exterior repaints across Pasadena and the older towns pressed up against the mountains, where the housing stock is roughly the same age and has roughly the same walls.

    Call (626) 806-0562 and tell us roughly when the house was built and which wall is peeling. Those two facts get you a far more useful answer over the phone than a square footage does.

    • Pasadena, CA (91101, 91103, 91104, 91105, 91106, 91107)
    • Altadena, CA
    • Sierra Madre, CA
    • South Pasadena, CA
    • San Marino, CA
    • Monrovia, CA
    • Eagle Rock, CA
    • Arcadia, CA

    Have Us Walk the West Wall With You

    We will go around the house with you, look at where the paint is failing and why, pull a piece of tape on the worst elevation and tell you what the wall actually needs. Sometimes that is a full repaint. Sometimes it is fixing a downspout and leaving the paint alone for another three years, and we will say so.

    Call (626) 806-0562